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6 January 2007 at 4:20 am
This is a most unusual place for me to be, but I first of all appreciate the tone that you set for dialogue; one that invites thoughts without resorting to the baser elements so prevailant in todays culture. In these times of instant gratification and nonstop amusements, it’s difficult to find someone who will simply “ponder” things. I perceive that you are engaged in a pursuit that’s relatively new to you. Without a doubt, you desire truth and are no doubt convinced that you are on a path to truth.
I will make no attempt to obscure myself; I have been a christian since 1983. As a result, you and I are at nearly polar opposites in our ways of looking at things. For example, I believe that there is one supreme God who created all and desires to have a personal relationship with us. You will undoubtedly disagree with this as I have gathered from reading here.
While I have never engaged in that which you are pursueing, I know what it’s like to desire truth and instead find confusion. As a teenager, I was fascinated by anything of an eccentric nature, ghosts, extraterrestrials, anything that would make for “Coast to Coast AM” conversation. In my contorted view of reality, I believed that God was real and I even believed the bible to be true. Yet I was very hostile toward anyone who proclaimed these things. A paradox to be sure. I can remember asking God “in sincerity” to please show me the truth amidst all of the voices of confusion that were then, and are now ever so present. I was unknowingly praying a scriptural prayer found in james where it says that if any man lacks wisdom, let him ask of God. A sincere desire to know truth, will be honored. The key word is sincere. We are easily beset by pride and tradition; two things that have led to the shipwreck of billions throughout the ages.
It was about a year later when that truth became real. It wasn’t a realization reached through careful analysis of various data from several sources. It was the Spirit of God (I know that this will most likely not be received well) convicting me of my sinful nature; a nature that has been in the world ever since the fall in the garden of Eden. When Adam and Eve disobeyed God and sin entered the world, the devil, Satan, has been the god of this world. Every murder, evry lie, every wicked act that one person will do to another is the result of that one sin. There were four people on earth when the first murder took place. Things got out of hand quickly from there. To make this short, Jesus Christ, the Son of God (God manifest in the flesh) paid for our sins on the cross. Three days later he rose from the dead and is alive forevermore just as he has been forever past. He has no beginning and he has no ending. Time itself is merely a bubble sitting in an endless sea of forever.
To quote scripture or go into detailed analysis wouldn’t serve a purpose here. I only desire to promote the pursuit of the truth. When you find it, you will “know it” This life is ever so short and can come to an abrupt end without warning. Everyone that ever died in an auto accident was on the road because they had somewhere to go. A somewhere that resided just beyond their domain. Each of us will leave this world and you don’t want your first word in eternity to be “Oops.” Please take this into consideration. David Meyer is a guy in Wisconsin whose family was involved with your current pursuit going back five generations, traceable to Colonial America. For David, it wasn’t just a new thing; he was raised in it and was a very powerful witch in his teenage years. I’ll leave his web site address but you won’t be able to read his testimony and not be challenged.
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org
It comes down to two things that everyone must address.
1 – Is truth sincerely desired?
2 – Is truth valued over pre-conceived ideas or traditions?
I appreciate an opportunity to share thoughts. I blog for this reason. I have known folks over the years with whom I had nothing in common but we could discuss things without resorting to insults, theatrics and the elements of human nature that tend to exalt oneself over truth.
6 January 2007 at 3:12 pm
Greetings, Timbob.
I welcome true dialog, and like you I prize it for its rarity. Some months ago now, on another site, I carried on what I thought was a productive series of about eight or nine exchanges each with an Evangelical, but sadly we came to a parting of the ways when at one point I honestly said I did not see things the same way he did. In what turned out to be our last exchange, I gave my understanding of a particular Bible verse, and he replied that I was a “servant of Satan” because I had simply “twisted his words.” Our conversation ended at that point, regretfully on my part, since I felt we had finally gotten to the actual source of our differences, and to me the conversation was just getting interesting, because we were being more honest with each other. At no point before that had either of us lost the civil tone we sustained. I was disappointed, because we could not continue what was most interesting to me, since I’d been raised in a Christian family.
If you’d like to carry on a discussion here, I accept the invitation. However, can we establish some guidelines from the outset? If we can agree to keep talking past our differences, so that before we stop we have a clear idea of what the other actually understands and believes, then I will be willing to discuss our respective beliefs. I understand that for you as a Christian, this is an opportunity to witness to an unbeliever. Likewise, it’s my hope that through our exchanges you may sharpen your understanding of the perspectives and experiences of a Pagan without taking offense where I don’t intend any. Ideally our exchanges will be useful to both of us in our faith journeys. In the future, you may be able to witness more effectively to others. I may come to a deeper understanding of Christian perspectives and beliefs that have perplexed me for years. Does that sound agreeable to you?
Let me know, and I’ll pick up with several of the points you make in your first post, and with some comments on the last trumpet ministries website you recommended. (If our exchanges develop, I’ll probably move them to another subpage like “dialogs” or something similar, for ease of future reference.)
Here’s hoping you check back in to read this. — druidyear
7 January 2007 at 4:13 am
Greetings again. One thing about conversing with someone of a differing perspective is that it causes you to think and examine things. Not to mention use big words that you otherwise wouldn’t. I know that the apostle Paul “reasoned” out of the scriptures. This means that he presented his case point by point to those who were curious. It’s not an easy task and I do sometimes have a problem of not thinking things through before writing. (I created a little stir last night unintentionally on another site) I also know the apostle paul became all things to all men that he may of all men win some. He knew to take himself out of the discussion and present the gospel.
I welcome the challenge. This is a different topic, but when I first started working where I’m at now there was a girl there who was far along in your way of looking at things. She was twenty years old and while I didn’t agree with certain things, we got along great, goofed off and what not. She was actually comical. While I always seek to share my faith; why I believe what I do, and the circumstances that brought it about, I also know that respect for others is important. If you really care for someone, you will treat them with such. The two great commandments are to love God wholeheartedly and to love your neighbor as yourself. Love works no ill to its neighbor. I don’t mean to be long winded and its after 4:00am so I must go for now. Please keep in touch. I think that this could be a thought provoking process. Thought provoking is a lost art form in these days.
7 January 2007 at 8:23 pm
Greetings. I’ll pick up from your first post. You wrote, “I perceive that you are engaged in a pursuit that’s relatively new to you.” You’re right that the Druid path is a relatively new one for me. Though I’ve been involved in alternative religion for about 25 years, I’ve only recently realized a lack of concern for the earth and its rhythms in my beliefs, and several factors have prodded me to turn in that direction.
You wrote, “Without a doubt, you desire truth and are no doubt convinced that you are on a path to truth.” Like you, I hope I am on a path to truth. It can be hard to discern these days, with all the media emphasis on sex, and the fear in the air about the war in Iraq, and the terrorist threat. But the Wise of many traditions have left us good counsel and ways to clear away the false and test the validity of whatever asks for our attention and energies.
Maybe it would help if I attempt to state what I believe stands as some common ground between us. It’s helpful to have a starting point for discussions, and this may serve, so here goes.
1. God exists. You presumably believe as a Christian that there’s just one true one, and I believe that there are many, but it’s a start, at least. I value much in Christianity and other monotheistic faiths, while being a polytheist. I just don’t see convincing evidence that there’s just one god. With respect, I know the Biblical God says he’s the only true god, but other gods have been known to say similar things, and present good evidence, but I still try to weigh even (or especially) the claims of gods quite carefully. For example, many Christians would say that Allah and the Biblical God are not the same, yet each claims to be the only true god, and each produces a lot of evidence. For me, evidence is good, but personal experience offers an additional test. We don’t just believe a car dealer when he says his offer is a “real deal,” but take out a model for a test drive ourselves. We also look for warranties, service, etc. In the same way, I try to test the claims of gods as best I can. I’m always suspicious of having absolute certainty, because then how could I grow any further? Humility is hard sometimes, but priceless, and has always served me better than certainty that I’ve got the only right answer. (Maybe that’s why I never liked math with one correct answer most of the time, because it’s less like life, where there are often several possible, viable alternatives in many situations.)
2. The universe has a divine order, pattern and set of laws that uphold it. Christians rely as I understand it more heavily on revelation of just what these laws are, and Pagans on experience, but neither, I hope, need exclude the other.
3. Jesus Christ is the son of God. You may understand different things by this than I do, but I acknowledge that Jesus has an unusual wisdom and power and stature that few or no other people have, so I’m quite willing to acknowledge that he is divine. But again, as a polytheist, that’s not so difficult. I just don’t believe that he’s the only son of God. We ourselves, if I read the New Testament right, are sons and daughters of the Most High, and children of God. I’m not trying to make myself or anyone else equal to Jesus, but to offer my understanding.
4. The Jewish and Christian scriptures testify to God’s nature and purpose for humans. Again, for me as a polytheist, that’s possible to do. I just don’t believe they are the only authoritative sources of wisdom and insight. Much comes through direct personal experience of living. Some comes through other sources, among them the natural world. And some comes through spiritual exercises, meditation and comtemplation, which Christian saints also practice in many varieties. Brother Lawrence in his book Practicing the Presence of God offers a powerful technique. Ignatius Loyola of the Jesuits wrote the Spiritual Exercises. Jesus himself prayed often, and he is the son of God. The beauty of other people and the natural world is a continuous prayer.
5. This human life is brief in comparison to eternity and our choices matter profoundly. However, you presumably believe that “it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment,” as Hebrews puts it. On the other hand, I am a believer in reincarnation, and I see this world as a school where we learn how to work with the divine for the good of the whole. What we don’t learn here, we pick up with later.
So, that should give us plenty to talk about!
Best wishes — druidyear.
10 January 2007 at 8:40 pm
Sorry for not getting back sooner. I wasn’t aware that you had responded until about two minutes ago. I’m at work right at the moment during lunch so I’ll have to get back later. Just wanted to let you know that I’ve not forgotten. Discussion is challenging and I do want to engage in such. Will return as soon as I can.
12 January 2007 at 9:27 am
Good morning. I had some things in my schedule change this morning and as a result, have an opportunity to reply. First though, I was thinking of making a refrence to this conversation at my sites but I don’t want to do this unless you’re ok with it. I can see where it could cause problems; even though this is all in the public domain and being monitored by the NSA which will eventually be used to bring about the police state and eventually, the beast government. (How’s that for a starter?) That’s a twofold meaning. While in this case it was meant to be a lighthearted comment, it does reveal that I’m convinced that we are at the end of the age. (There are reasons as to why this age is unlike any other)
This is totally “not” where I was planning to go, but when you look at the RFID technology, the chipping of livestock, the eventual chipping of people, you can see a most wicked of devices manifesting before us. The steps have been gradual over the years, but are now gaining in momentum. Just like all of Satans devices, they’ll appeal to the flesh and look like “good ideas.” After all, if you place a chip in your child and that chld is abducted, we can find them via satelite. With a chip, you won’t need to carry credit cards, keys, or anything. Satan is a masterful showman and he knows how to lead a crowd down the road to perdition. These are very seductive times. (Rev. 13:3-4)
You mention much in your posts about the natural environment; an environment which is under continuous assault. There’s a bible verse telling how the whole creation groans and travails. This groaning and travailing is also picking up momentum as the end approaches. I hold the environment in a diffeent context than you as I consider it to be created substance which will one day be no more. The physical world is the result of happenings in the spiritual realm. God is a Spirit. God said ‘let there be this and let there be that” which caused this and that to become this and that. Physicists can well drive themselves nutty trying to figure out the universe. (ever learning) They are using physical formulas to dicipher spiritual happenings; that being that the things which are seen were not made by things which do appear. Furthermore, the physical realm is tempopral, but the spiritual realm is eternal. All that we see will one day find no place of being, but a spirit will always be.
I think that one of the reasons that I desired a dialogue with you is that I enjoy a conversation with one who “thinks” about issues and watches things that are coming to pass. (I know that I haven’t discussed any of the above yet; I’ll get there. I think) I see Revelation coming to pass and most people greet such talk with “Oh yeah…Yawwwwwwn. My great grandma used to say things like that.” Our entire culture (as a teacher you have certainly noticed this) is obsessed by little more than Brittney Spears, gangsta rap with it’s cast of performers featuring incorrectly spelled names, and “American Idolatry” where people get to select who they’re going to worship next. Our culture is every bit as shallow and pleasure driven as was the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire wasn’t overthrown by a larger empire. It fell from within like a giant tee with a rotted trunk. The vandals, lombards, and other tribes came across the borders as though they were nothing. I really think that America could well be Mystery Babylon. (I think; I don’t know for sure)
Well getting to the most high God who fills heaven and earth. In discussing God, I do it in a different fashion. Here’s an analogy. If I were to do a research project on Abraham Lincoln, I would gather up as much information as I could about him. I might look up old letters and the eyewitness accounts written by his contemporaries. I might even explore his various speeches and search for any details that would reveal some glimpse into his personal life. On the other hand, if I was to do a biography on my kids, I would have a host of personal information. I could tell you how Morgan gets angry when she’s spent 20 minutes fixing her hair and you reach in through the door and mess it up. (That used to fry her. Odd sense of humor; sorry) I could tell you how Megan loves animals and if we ever had a tornado coming our way, she would be outside trying to bring the goats into the house and get the cats out of the field. She would probably even try to coax in the coyotes. I could tell you about Matthew, who has autism and while he has special need, he has a very distinct personality that you can only pick up on by spending time with him. And I could tell you about Ryan who has inherited my sarchasm gene and comes up with wise cracks that are hilarious, and yet, oftentimes, he’s not even aware that he “just made a zinger.” I never knew Abraham Lincoln, but I know my wife and children very well and this would come forth in the biography.
The same is true when talking about God. When I talk of him I’m discussing someone whom I know personally. Someone who sent his Son into this fallen world to pay for the sins of fallen man. I talk with him daily and “beside him is no other.” He speaks often through his word, and often in ways that as you’re in fervent prayer, truth over an issue is suddenly “known.” I can’t explain this but it’s awesome. Sometimes in praying over an issue, Three, four, five scripture verses will come to mind. Sometimes an obscure verse in a not often visited book of the bible will come out; one that you’ve seen, but never thought on. Suddenly, it’s relavant to a situation. It is a real, vibrant, relationship and it began the day that I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. I acknowledge that this statement may seem like little more than a list of words place end to end, but it’s the only way that I can describe it. In your next posting please explain a pondering.
What was the factor that led you to this path? This is always a question that I have for anyone. For example, what was it that caused Albert Einstein to pursue a life of science instead of a musical career? I’m always curious of such things. In my second entry, I mentioned the lady that I worked with and I’m not sure as to how she got involved with things; although I think that you have a different approach. She was a full blown wiccan right down to the oval “An ye harm no one” bumper sticker on her car. We never discussed such things as the environment at work tends to lead to much clowning around. (When you place managers, engineers, supervisors, and union workers, all from different walks of life into one building, you’ll find a lot of amusement) This is actually a failing on my part as a soul is priceless and to allow small talk to take place over serious discussion of eternal significance is wrong.
Well, I’ll close out for now as I need to get some things done before going to work. Please don’t hesitate to leave comments over on my site. Such things are in the public domain. I have another blog site if you’re ever curious. It’s http://www.philippians320.blogspot.com I don’t get to it as often as I used to because the wordpress site has more going on. Nonetheless, the posts are of my thoughts and ponderings; many of them are of an apocalyptic nature. (The whole creation is of an apocalyptic nature. Melting with a fervent heat is very apocalyptic) Well, I need to go. Please stay in contact. I’ll try to get back sooner the next time
12 January 2007 at 4:34 pm
Thanks for your post. I replied on your site to one of your current posts. I do hope you’ll take it as I intended, not merely as disagreement, but showing again where you and I often agree on certain points, while of course we differ on many others.
You ask, “What was the factor that led you to this path?” Spirit has moved me to where I am now, and so the easy but also true answer is Spirit. I find myself continuing to ask how to fulfill my spiritual purpose in this life, and I trust where I am led. I can’t do it any other way. There’s nothing else left in me. I’m spiritually empty when I don’t do this. That’s my faith, if anyone wants to know. The gods speak to us through all things, and often most powerfully through the natural world, the air we breathe every moment, the water that nourishes and sustains the skin of the planet and our own bodies, the heat of the sun and other fires that keep us warm, the earth which sustains us and feeds us. It’s the “dailiness” of the divine — how the ten thousand things of the worlds greet us each moment of our conscious existence. These things are not anything that I worship, but what I celebrate as the physical hands and bodies and instruments of the divine in our lives. I’ve increasingly come to realize how much more responsible I am to live my entire life as a gift, on loan for however many years I’m here. It’s not a chance to indulge myself as much as I can, or to consume as much as all our advertisers urge us to. Instead, I want to answer with how I shape and conduct my life for the gift of green earth and physical existence. There’s a sweet hunger in me to devote more and more of my life to Spirit and to celebrate all the gifts of this physical world we inhabit, and which we are too often trashing and ravaging and disrespecting. What I can do matters, no matter how small. Each step is one step more. And this blog is also a step, where I strive to be true to this ideal.
14 January 2007 at 5:48 pm
Greetings again. Just wanted to repond to your query (thanks for asking):
“First though, I was thinking of making a refrence to this conversation at my sites but I don’t want to do this unless you’re ok with it.”
Please feel free to do so.
You write: “I think that one of the reasons that I desired a dialogue with you is that I enjoy a conversation with one who “thinks” about issues and watches things that are coming to pass.”
Thank you for your words. I hope we can continue the cordial, relaxed tone we’ve established. It matter to me, too.
You write: “Our entire culture (as a teacher you have certainly noticed this) is obsessed by little more than Brittney Spears, gangsta rap with it’s cast of performers featuring incorrectly spelled names, and “American Idolatry” where people get to select who they’re going to worship next. Our culture is every bit as shallow and pleasure driven as was the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire wasn’t overthrown by a larger empire. It fell from within like a giant tee with a rotted trunk.”
I agree that we’re obsessed with shallow things — a drawback of a consumer driven culture that gives us whatever we can imagine. But from my viewpoint it’s also a plus, because people discover that much sooner how empty these things are. Or if they don’t, they apparently need the experience to teach them, if only to make them hungrier for deeper connections that you and I seek out each in his own ways.
Best wishes.
Druidyear
14 January 2007 at 9:35 pm
Thanks for your input and clearing up a question that I had. I wish that I had more time to devote to this conversation, but with four kids and all of the accompanying hecticities of life, it’s not always easy. Again, any reference to this dialogue will be in neutral terms and with the same respect that I would appreciate from another.
Recently, I saw a posting (I cannot remember who) in which they were discussing the climate thatpersists today in the arena of ideas. One group of folks screaming at another group of folks who are screaming back at the first group. You see it in Washington, on television, in street demonstrations, and even in households I used to do HVAC work for a number of years and I remember a particular house that we worked in. This couple spent their whole day in front of the television watching these Jerry Springer type shows, one after the other. By the time the afternoon rolled around, they were squabbling; even talking about divorce. Anger and frustration. A spirit of lawlessness and discontentment is in the land as was demonstrated by this couple and by the popularity that such programming has. While such problems have always been, the intensity has never been as it is now. An intensity that’s fueled by such venues as the internet, where a person can place thoughts on a blog and seconds later, a person in Singapore can read them.
Well I have to run and take care of a situation. I’ll return as soon as I can.
15 January 2007 at 1:03 am
Greetings again. Sorry about the disruption. To return to where I was, the spirit of rebellion and self-centeredness is prevailant in the culture today. A simple formula that I use is how much a person uses the word “me” in their conversation. Ours is a “me” culture, and as a result we have a plethura of social upheaval. (I’m not sure as to where this is going but I’ll run with it) This attitude of men being lovers of themselves and folks running to and fro are symtoms synonomous with the end times.
The contention that the end times have been discussed for centuries is an accurate one. The black plague was considered by many to be a result of the apocalypse as one third of Europes population perished. (The history channel had a good documentary on this recently) Likewise, similar thoughts were common in the early 1800s when William Miller predicted the exact date of Christs return (Note: a simple knowledge of scripture and discernment would have alerted folks to the problem with this; that nobody knows the day nor the hour) A first date came and went; so a re-evaluation of scripture was done and a second date came to be. (Another note: The true test of a prophet is when what he says comes to pass. One erroneous prophecy and this is a person that’s not hearing from God. Folks get into more trouble by not knowing scripture.) On the second date, many of the “Millerites” sold all that they had and gathered on a farm to wait for the Lords return. Well this proved to be erroneous also as the fact that we’re still here will attest.
I don’t even pretend to know a date and I wouldn’t give the time of day to any who did insofar as taking their word seriously. My belief comes from not only the scriptural telling of the conditions of the last days, but the technological ability for those things to take place in our lifetime.
The Mark of the beast is a prophecy that wasn’t even possible until the last couple of decades. Already there are laws on the books in various places to have all livestock chipped and wild game is chipped routinely. In this environment of “war on terror”, identity theft, various reports of banking records being lost, kidnappings, it would only “MAKE SENSE” to chip everyone. That way if a child is abducted, they can be found instantly. It would solve immigration problems and you would never ever have to worry about another person having access to your records. This chip would (does in the experimental cases) replace your keys so that you can access your house, start your car, and enter your place of work by simply waving your hand. The similarities between this and a prophetic utterance that occurred two thousand years ago are simply too in line with each other to ignore.
I don’t subscribe to many of the conspiriacy theories as an imagination can run amuck with little prompting. As a result, one must be careful in what they classify as truth and what may be just “bad pizza” in watching things play out. (I’m kind of all over the map here, but you usually sort things out pretty well) The bible gives us the conditions of the last days in “broad strokes” I think for a specific reason. To keep us watching and not becoming overcharged with a temporal realm. We are to be ambassadors for Christ and are to be using our time wisely while here. If we knew the exact date (which I firmly believe is incredibally close,) many, like the Millerites, would be sitting on a hill, waiting, instead of striving to fulfil the great commission of going into all the world and preaching the gospel. We are to occupy till he comes, but to always be watching.
One thing that you mentioned in your last posting caught my attention and it’s a truth that many spend a lifetime without seeing it. When a person runs the gantlet of physical indulgence, the emptiness that only God can fill becomes ever more obvious. King Solomon learned this and today we have the book of Ecclesiastes to tell of that which he learned after years of material acquisitions to the point of affecting his relationship with God. (It would appear that 700 wives can’t bring happiness) It’s a book that, like Proverbs, is so filled with wisdom, that anyone, regardless of their outlook on things could read it and acquire wisdom. A complete athiest could learn from this wisdom from on high.
Well I don’t know if I’ve rambled about or brought up some ponderings for future posts. I think about these things a lot as I see things transpiring and very few seem to even give it so much as a yawn. (As in the days of Noah) I’ll be going for now and will look forward to hearing from you. If it takes a couple of days to get back, please understand the busy life that I have; one that really wouldn’t facilitate blogging if I didn’t do a large share of it at the expence of slumber. (I really believe in watching) Oh I like that you have placed this into a page that’s centralized so that we’re not dropping comments here and there. I haven’t even touched the “about” section of my site yet. (It’s on my “to do” list) I’ll see you soon.
20 January 2007 at 10:19 am
Greetings again. Just stopping by to say hello. Both of us have very busy schedules and as such, getting by here can be challenging. Lately, I’ve been sacrificing sleep in order to keep the blogs updated insofar as that which is on my heart at a given moment. These are indeed strange times and as such, strange things are transpiring daily. I just linked to a report on the situation in Iraq; one that has become a disaster in that so many are entering eternity from every tribe.
It’s intersting that the Euphrates River is the only one that is mentioned from Genesis to Revelation. In Genesis, it was one of the four rivers that emanated from the one coming out of Eden. In revelation, it is dried up to prepare the way for the kings of the east. The Tigris, called Hiddekel, is mentioned only twice. In Genesis, it too is one of four rivers that come from the river flowing out of Eden. It’s only other mention is in Daniel 10:4. Here, the prophet Daniel sees Jesus. His description in verse 6 is exactly as John saw him in Revelation 1:11-16. Both men had similar reactions. Daniels comliness was turned to corruption and there remained no strength in him, and John fell down at his feet as one dead.
The world has a middle ages image in their minds of Jesus. When folks see him, it’s a whole different story. Soon, every eye is going to behold him when he returns. I didn’t mean to get going on this Saturday morning, but this is just an event that is going to happen in it’s proper time. When it does, all of the academic discussions over theology, science, philosophy will amount to little more than illusions. Please stop by when you get a chance.
26 January 2007 at 12:47 pm
Greetings again. Just coming from my older blogsite; the one that I don’t get back to as much as I would like. I try to keep it current, but time is always an issue. Just wanted to touch base (that phrase is bothersome) with you and see how everythings going. All of us are busy these days it seems; pressed beyond measure in the ever accelerating pace of the collective “running to and fro.” Daniel prophesied of it and it is indeed a very present reality in our times. Please keep in touch and I’ll do the same.